Nic is back and we're here to deep dive into the life and legacy of Mary Kay Ash, the founder of one of the oldest MLM companies. The story that is told to consultants and regurgitated over and over at events about Mary Kay's life and the founding of the company? Turns out, it's not true. Nic has come with the records and receipts as we go through the fabrications surrounding her origin story, and the truth about her multiple marriages. Our conversation also highlights the eerily similar connections between Mary Kay and other more recent MLM founders, the nepotistic cronyism in the family business, and the crumbling feminist facade of her company.Show Notes<a href="https://www.pinktruth.com/2016/04/06/just-the-mary-kay-facts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay: Just the Facts</a><a href="https://www.pinktruth.com/mary-kay-ash-marriages/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay Ash Marriage</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pinktruth.com/2011/07/18/ask-me-about-mary-kay-one-of-mary-kays-first-consultants-reveals-the-dirt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One of Mary Kay’s First Consultants Reveals The Dirt</a><a href="https://amzn.to/4nFnf09" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ask ME about Mary Kay: The True Story Behind the Bumper Sticker on the Pink Cadillac by Jackie Brown</a><a href="https://ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tools/tree/195665065/invitees/accept?inviteId=00cbffe7-9718-4bd2-b7c7-edda909efe5f" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay Ash’s Family Tree</a><a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210593076/julius_ben-rogers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ben Rogers Jr, Mary Kay’s son, major investor in Mary Kay Cosmetics Inc startup</a><a href="https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/forbes-mary-kay-ash.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Kay Mentioned in Forbes Twice</a><a href="https://obits.dallasnews.com/us/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/name/ben-rogers-obituary?id=11343496" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ben Rogers Dallas News Obituary</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210531675/marilyn_yvonne-schumacher_reed_theard" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marilyn Rogers was one of the first Sales Representatives</a><a href="https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/influence-continuum/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Influence Continuum</a><a href="https://outofmlm.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://amzn.to/3PDeIvA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://amzn.to/45cx8t9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>How can you help?<a href="https://mlmchange.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://www.truthinadvertising.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-agencies-worldwide" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Not in the U.S.? 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