We spoke to two researchers who disagree about the answer to this question. But they do agree about why it's so hard to answer to begin with.

Guests: Dylan Scott, <a href="https://www.vox.com/authors/dylan-scott">senior correspondent at Vox</a>; Kenneth Mukamal, <a href="https://www.bidmc.org/research/research-by-department/medicine/general-medicine-research/research-faculty/kenneth-j-mukamal-md-mph">physician and academic researcher at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center</a>; Timothy Naimi, <a href="https://www.uvic.ca/research/centres/cisur/about/scientists/profiles/naimi-tim.php">director of the University of Victoria’s Canadian Institute for Substance Use Research</a>

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