This week, Emily Bazelon and David Plotz are joined by The Atlantic’s <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/author/franklin-foer/">Franklin Foer</a> to discuss Joe Biden’s White House and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Last-Politician-Inside-Struggle-Americas-ebook/dp/B0C32ZVF19/tag=slatmaga-20">The Last Politician</a>; the war in Ukraine and the possible meeting of Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin; and Americans’ views on the value of higher education. Join us for <a href="https://slate.com/gabfestlive">Political Gabfest Live</a> in Madison, Wisconsin on October 25! Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Last-Politician-Inside-Struggle-Americas-ebook/dp/B0C32ZVF19/tag=slatmaga-20">The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden’s White House and the Struggle for America’s Future</a> by Franklin FoerSeung Min Kim, Stephen Groves, and Farnoush Amiri for AP: “<a href="https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-kevin-mccarthy-debt-limit-aee6d1dd48f53bedadfe1212e231f48f">How Biden and McCarthy struck a debt limit deal and staved off a catastrophe</a>”Matthew Yglesias <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias">@mattyglesias</a>: “<a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1699017779641246002">This was Biden’s core promise …</a>”Jasmine Wright for CNN: “<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/24/politics/kamala-harris-abortion-rights/index.html">Kamala Harris found her voice on abortion rights in the year after Dobbs. Now she’s making it central to her 2024 message</a>”Imtiaz Tyab for CBS News: “<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-counteroffensive-us-sees-notable-progress-zaporizhzhia/">Ukraine counteroffensive makes “notable” progress near Zaporizhzhia, but it’s a grinding stalemate elsewhere</a>”Paul Tough for The New York Times Magazine: “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/magazine/college-worth-price.html">Americans Are Losing Faith in the Value of College. Whose Fault Is That?</a>”Ramesh Ponnuru in The Washington Post: “<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/27/nurturing-conservative-ideas-on-campus/">How to restore intellectual diversity on college campuses</a> Mitchell E. Daniels Jr. in The Washington Post: “<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-different-solution-to-student-debt/2015/08/20/d2e140b8-37bb-11e5-9d0f-7865a67390ee_story.html">Could income-share agreements help solve the student debt crisis?</a>”<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bullshit-Jobs-Theory-David-Graeber-ebook/dp/B075RWG7YM/tag=slatmaga-20">Bullshit Jobs: A Theory</a> by David Graeber Sarah Wood for U.S. News & World Report: “<a href="https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/paying-for-meals-at-college-what-to-know-about-costs">Paying for Meals at College: What to Know About Costs</a>”<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nine-Black-Robes-Historic-Consequences-ebook/dp/B0B9SP225M/tag=slatmaga-20">Nine Black Robes: Inside the Supreme Court’s Drive to the Right and Its Historic Consequences</a> by Joan Biskupic Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Richard Fausset and Danny Hakim for The New York Times: “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/us/trump-georgia-trial-powell-chesebro.html">Georgia Judge Says Two Defendants in Trump Case Will Get Early Trial Together</a>” and Sam Gringlas for NPR: “<a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197080384/georgia-trump-election-case-legal-complexities">In the Trump Georgia case, conflicting legal strategies complicate the path to trial</a>”Frank: The Dan Patrick Show: “<a href="https://danpatrick.com/2023/08/04/does-messi-make-mls-appear-inferior/">Does Messi Make MLS Appear Inferior?</a>”; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Soccer-Explains-World-Globalization-ebook/dp/B0013M31GE/tag=slatmaga-20">How Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory of Globalization</a> by Franklin Foer; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Essays-Music-Theodor-Adorno/dp/0520226720/tag=slatmaga-20">Essays on Music</a> by Theodor Adorno; and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Late-Style-Music-Literature-Against-ebook/dp/B001NJUOHG/tag=slatmaga-20">On Late Style: Music and Literature Against the Grain</a> by Edward W. Said David: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/exhibition/one-life-frederick_douglass">One Life: Frederick Douglass</a> at the National Portrait Gallery, Smithsonian, Washington, D.C.; Michel Martin for NPR’s All Things Considered: “<a href="https://www.npr.org/2015/12/13/459593474/picture-this-frederick-douglass-was-the-most-photographed-man-of-his-time">Picture This: Frederick Douglass Was The Most Photographed Man Of His Time</a>”; and NPR: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBe5qbnkqoM">’What To The Slave Is The Fourth Of July?’: Descendants Read Frederick Douglass’ Speech</a>”Listener chatter from Nicole Dorn: Jennifer Senior for The Atlantic: “<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/disabled-children-institutionalization-history/674763/">The Ones We Sent Away</a>” For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Frank, Emily, and David discuss the writing of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Last-Politician-Inside-Struggle-Americas-ebook/dp/B0C32ZVF19/tag=slatmaga-20">The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden’s White House and the Struggle for America’s Future</a>. In the latest <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2023/08/books-barbara-kingsolvers-demon-copperhead-modern-david-copperfield-in-appalachia">Gabfest Reads</a>, Emily, David, and John talk with <a href="http://barbarakingsolver.net/">Barbara Kingsolver</a> about her best-selling book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Copperhead-Novel-Barbara-Kingsolver-ebook/dp/B09QMHZ53K/tag=slatmaga-20">Demon Copperhead</a>.  Email your chatters, questions, and comments to <a href="mailto:gabfest@slate.com">gabfest@slate.com</a> or X us <a href="https://twitter.com/slategabfest?lang=en">@SlateGabfest</a>. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie HuygenHostsFranklin Foer, Emily Bazelon, and David Plotz Follow@SlateGabfest on X / <a href="https://twitter.com/SlateGabfest">https://twitter.com/SlateGabfest</a>Slate Gabfest on Facebook / <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Gabfest/">https://www.facebook.com/Gabfest/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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