Max and Maria welcome Michael Kimmage back to the show to provide his analysis of the ongoing U.S.-led negotiations to achieve a ceasefire in Ukraine.
This conversation was recorded on Wednesday, April 30, 2025.
"<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/what-if-america-abandons-ukraine">What if America Abandons Ukraine</a>?" by Liana Fix and Michael Kimmage (Foreign Affairs, May 2025).
"<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/germany/zeitenwende-real-time">The Zeitenwende Is Real This Time</a>," by Michael Kimmage and Sudha David-Wilp (Foreign Affairs, April 2025).

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