All links and images can be found on <a href= "https://cisoseries.com/how-do-we-measure-our-defenses-against-social-engineering-attacks/"> CISO Series.</a> Check out <a class="ql-link" href= "https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mikevj_my-theory-is-that-orgs-measure-phishing-click-activity-7358697879445688321-zue8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAABTPPZ4B1qQYPSxiaKsxlD-DogPwH6La93s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this post</a> for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by <a class="ql-link" href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidspark/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">David Spark</a>, the producer of <a class= "ql-link" href="https://cisoseries.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">CISO Series</a>, and <a class="ql-link" href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikevj/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">Mike Johnson</a>, CISO, <a class="ql-link" href="http://rivian.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">Rivian</a>. Joining them is their sponsored guest <a class="ql-link" href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbyjford/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">Bobby Ford</a>, chief strategy and experience officer, <a class="ql-link" href= "https://www.doppel.com/product/simulation" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">Doppel</a>. In this episode: <ul> <li>Beyond the click</li> <li>High-risk users demand different metrics</li> <li>Building engagement over punishment</li> <li>Creating a security culture through community</li> </ul> Huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel <a href="https://www.doppel.com/product/simulation"></a> Doppel is protecting the world's digital integrity. Impersonators adapt fast — but so does Doppel. By pairing AI with expert analysis, we don't just detect deception; we dismantle it. Our platform learns from every attack, expands its reach across digital channels, and disrupts threats before they cause harm. The result? Impersonators lose. Businesses become too costly to attack. And trust stays intact. Learn more at <a href= "https://www.doppel.com/product/simulation">https://www.doppel.com/</a> &nbsp;

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