Louis is joined by Bobby Vylan, one half of the controversial punk-rap band Bob Vylan. In his first public interview since his contentious performance at Glastonbury - where he led a chant of ‘death to the IDF’ - Bobby discusses why he did it, the subsequent backlash and whether he still stands by the chant.  
 
Warnings: Strong language and adult themes. If you’ve been affected by the topics discussed in this episode, Spotify have a website for information and resources. Visit spotify.com/resources 

X Post: Visa Revoke by Deputy Secretary of State 
<a href="https://x.com/DeputySecState/status/1939697586920997374?lang=en">⁠https://x.com/DeputySecState/status/1939697586920997374?lang=en⁠</a>  
 
Article: Chuck D defending Bob Vylan 
<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/chuck-d-bob-vylan-public-enemy-b2782798.html">⁠https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/chuck-d-bob-vylan-public-enemy-b2782798.html⁠</a>  
 
Article: Damon Albarn comment 
<a href="https://www.thetimes.com/culture/music/article/damon-albarn-interview-africa-express-8rsndnd85">⁠https://www.thetimes.com/culture/music/article/damon-albarn-interview-africa-express-8rsndnd85⁠</a>  
 
Article: IDF soldiers shooting unarmed Gazans 
<a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000">⁠https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000⁠</a>  
 
X Post: Ted Cruz thoughts on the chant 
<a href="https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1939080845702083062">⁠https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1939080845702083062⁠</a>  
 
Song: ‘Pretty Songs’, Bob Vylan (2022) 
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/4Xjs3lwUmT32IuYi9KoGRw">⁠https://open.spotify.com/track/4Xjs3lwUmT32IuYi9KoGRw⁠</a>  
 
Song: ‘England’s Ending’, Bob Vylan (2020) 
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1kGFhr8FoPJ9jqV8AT0RDA">⁠https://open.spotify.com/album/1kGFhr8FoPJ9jqV8AT0RDA⁠</a>  
 
Article: ‘The Zionist Fallacy of Jewish Supremacy’ 
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/1/9/the-zionist-fallacy-of-jewish-supremacy">⁠https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/1/9/the-zionist-fallacy-of-jewish-supremacy⁠</a>  
  
Article: GILEE Program sending officers to Israel <a href="https://gilee.gsu.edu/files/2023/09/McDuffie-Progress-Gale-2023.pdf">⁠https://gilee.gsu.edu/files/2023/09/McDuffie-Progress-Gale-2023.pdf⁠</a>  
 
Song: ‘Drug War’, Bob Vylan (2022) 
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2kKzKi8dT2NmjVQogIfSwK">⁠https://open.spotify.com/track/2kKzKi8dT2NmjVQogIfSwK⁠</a>  
 
Facebook Post: UKIP’s AI image of Bobby 
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheUKIndependenceParty/posts/bob-vylan-is-going-home/1288462819315084/">⁠https://www.facebook.com/TheUKIndependenceParty/posts/bob-vylan-is-going-home/1288462819315084/⁠</a>  
 
Song: ‘Cop Killer’, Body Count (1992) 
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XihXOw634o">⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XihXOw634o⁠</a> 
 
 Song: ‘Fuck Tha Police’, N.W.A (1988) 
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5n8Aro6j1bEGIy7Tpo7FV7?si=e30bfbfb94694acb">⁠https://open.spotify.com/track/5n8Aro6j1bEGIy7Tpo7FV7?si=e30bfbfb94694acb⁠</a>  
 
IHRA Antisemitism definition: 
<a href="https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism">⁠https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism⁠</a>  
 
Article: Antisemitism definition controversy 
<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/persons-of-interest/the-problem-with-defining-antisemitism">⁠https://www.newyorker.com/news/persons-of-interest/the-problem-with-defining-antisemitism⁠</a>  
 
CST Antisemitic report 2025:  
<a href="https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2025/08/06/antisemitic-incidents-report-january-june-2025">⁠https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2025/08/06/antisemitic-incidents-report-january-june-2025⁠</a>  

Credits: 
Producer: Millie Chu  
Assistant Producer: Maan Al-Yasiri 
Production Manager: Francesca Bassett  
Music: Miguel D’Oliveira  
Audio Mixer: Tom Guest 
Video Mixer: Scott Edwards  
Shownotes compiled by Elly Young 
Executive Producer: Arron Fellows  
   
A Mindhouse Production for Spotify  
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