<div>I am joined by author and researcher Grant Cameron to discuss the latest in UFO research, including Grant's newest book 'Beyond Managing Magic 2: Landing the Plane.' 

Check out Grants work:
Books <a href="https://itsallconnected.weebly.com/books.html">https://itsallconnected.weebly.com/books.html</a>
Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@whitehouseufo">https://www.youtube.com/@whitehouseufo</a>

00:00 Intro
00:30 Grant Cameron's Latest Book and UFO Disclosure
01:59 Historical UFO Encounters and Government Secrecy
04:31 The Frustration of UFO Disclosure
05:53 The Phenomenon and Consciousness
07:37 The Complexity of UFO Experiences
13:11 Skepticism and Government Control
25:09 Mindset and Interaction with Phenomena
33:44 The Role of Whistleblowers and Controlled Disclosure
41:31 Suspicion and Secrecy in Whistleblowing
42:19 David Grush's Impact on UFO Disclosure
44:16 International Whistleblowers and Government Involvement
48:16 The Role of Intelligence in UFO Secrecy
53:21 The Complexity of Disclosure and Public Perception
57:59 Consciousness and the Supernatural Blueprint


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Enjoy folks,

Andy</div>


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