What is the trick behind the Elon Musk school of management? In this episode of Bold Names, host <a href="https://www.wsj.com/news/types/tim-higgins?mod=WSJ_BNPOD">Tim Higgins</a> sits down with Jon McNeill, the former president of Tesla and current GM board member, to deconstruct the operating system that powered Tesla’s growth during his tenure. McNeill explains why he thinks automation should always come last, how to inject urgency into a corporate culture, and whether companies need an Elon Musk to reach the heights of innovation.
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