This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and guest host <a href="https://earlywarningwithjuliette.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Juliette Kayyem</a> discuss what we learn from Trump&#39;s escalating battle with the press and its track record in the courts, the likely outcomes of this week&#39;s Trump-Xi summit with former New York Times Beijing Bureau Chief and host of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/face-off-the-u-s-vs-china/id1734890307" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Face-Off: the US vs. China</a>, <a href="https://www.belfercenter.org/person/jane-perlez" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jane Perlez</a>, and the role of voter trust as the midterm elections approach.Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: <a href="https://www.sefaria.org/Kohelet_Rabbah.7.1?lang=bi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kohelet Rabbah 7:1</a>, The Sefaria Midrash Rabbah, 2022John: History Channel: <a href="https://play.history.com/shows/grant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grant</a>; John Anderson for The Wall Street Journal: <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/grant-review-the-wisdom-and-weaknesses-of-a-warrior-11590095071" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">‘Grant’ Review: The Wisdom and Weaknesses of a Warrior</a>Juliette: Madeline Puckette for Wine Folly: <a href="https://winefolly.com/deep-dive/orange-wine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything You Want to Know About Orange Wine</a>; Winecountry Collective: <a href="https://www.winecountry.com/blog/guide-to-orange-wine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Exploring the World of Orange Wines</a>Listener chatter from John McMillian in Atlanta, Georgia: Rick Perlstein for Smithsonian Magazine: <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/interview-playboy-magazine-nearly-torpedoed-jimmy-carters-presidential-campaign-180975576/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">An Interview With ‘Playboy’ Magazine Nearly Torpedoed Jimmy Carter’s Presidential Campaign</a>; Robert Scheer for Playboy Magazine: <a href="https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-jimmy-carter?srsltid=AU7gw4WbFxSCIeyzdcP9DRMHvnWF95LwPIYSgA75etdEVJQnhFy3kogI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Playboy Interview With Jimmy Carter</a>For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and guest host <a href="https://earlywarningwithjuliette.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Juliette Kayyem</a> discuss reactions to Nikole Hannah-Jones&#39;s New York Times Magazine essay, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/20/magazine/ny-public-schools-black-students-segregation.html?searchResultPosition=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">In Fighting for Every Black Child, Did I Betray My Own?</a>, and why the online hostility looks so different from what she actually wrote. They dig into the research on socioeconomic integration, the tendency to conflate race and class, and the problem with asking individual parents to solve what is really a policy problem.In the latest <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/gabfestreads" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabfest Reads</a>, David Plotz talks with journalist Annie Lowrey about her new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Time-Tax-Government-Wastes-Time_and/dp/0063442558/tag=slatmaga-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Time Tax: How the Government Wastes Our Time - and How to Fix It</a>, an investigation into the hours Americans lose to broken bureaucracy, from 12-hour tax filings to multiyear waits for housing vouchers and building permits.Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)Podcast production by Nina PorzuckiResearch by Emily DittoYou can find the full Political Gabfest <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">show pages here</a>.Want more Political Gabfest? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Political Gabfest show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/political-gabfest/id158004641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts </a>and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2oXS9kkKiXdkkCYB3YfqYZ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or visit <a href="http://slate.com/gabfestplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/gabfestplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.Find out more about <a href="http://secretfortdc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Plotz&#39;s monthly tours of Ft. DeRussy,</a> the secret Civil War fort hidden in Rock Creek Park. Follow@SlateGabfest on X / <a href="https://twitter.com/SlateGabfest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SlateGabfest</a>Slate Political Gabfest on Facebook / <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Gabfest/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/Gabfest/</a>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.<hr> Hosted on Acast. 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