Anand Giridharadas is a New York Times bestselling author whose new book is Man in the Mirror.
This conversation explores the death of Jordan Neely on a New York subway, the story at the center of the book. We discuss Anand's return from punditry to reporting, how power actually operates, what the Epstein emails reveal about elite relationships, the Aspen consensus, who gets to belong in America and the case for radical humanization.
Along the way, I share how the program of recovery taught me to seek understanding and lead with curiosity.
Anand's book is an act of service. I hope this conversation is, too. Enjoy!

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