The United Nations’ climate summit, COP30, is underway in Brazil. But one country is notably absent: the United States. On today’s show, climate law expert Jennifer Haverkamp joins Kimberly to share her takeaways from COP30 so far and what the United States’ absence means for the future of global climate progress. Plus, the growing debate over whether climate finance should prioritize adapting to climate change or curbing fossil fuels. Here’s everything we talked about today: <ul><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/live/2025/nov/20/cop30-live-news-updates-belem-brazil-president-lula">"Cop30 live: current climate pathway ‘a death sentence for many’, says UN secretary-general"</a> from The Guardian </li><li><a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/11/13/2025/debatable-how-to-fight-climate-change">"Debatable: How to fight climate change"</a> from Semafor</li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/11/14/trump-cop30-climate-united-nations/">"With Trump absent from COP30 talks, the world moves on without U.S."</a> from The Washington Post </li><li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-19/brazilian-officials-are-divided-over-fossil-fuel-plan-at-cop30">"Brazil Officials Are Divided Over Fossil Fuel Plan at COP30"</a> from Bloomberg</li><li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/20/india-says-cop30-should-be-about-climate-adaptation-but-dries-up-key-fund">"India wants COP30 to focus on climate adaptation, but dries up own fund"</a> from Al Jazeera  </li></ul> We love hearing from you. Leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART or email <a href="mailto:makemesmart@marketplace.org" class="interallink">makemesmart@marketplace.org</a>.

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