In this special episode of the podcast, Anderson reports from Rome following the death of Pope Francis, and speaks to religion professor Elaine Pagels who lost both her 6-year-old son Mark and her husband Heinz.

Visit the All There Is online grief community at <a href="https://www.cnn.com/interactive/dealing-with-grief-anderson-cooper/">cnn.com/allthereisonline</a> and watch the video version on YouTube. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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