The <a href="https://realfood.gov/"target="_blank" >new food pyramid</a> was released earlier this year. It emphasizes protein, full-fat dairy and what Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. calls “healthy fats.” These guidelines influence the standards for  school lunches, food labeling and programs like SNAP. Today on the show, Short Wave co-host Emily Kwong chats with registered dietitian nutritionist <a href="https://www.thenutritiontea.com/about"target="_blank" >Shana Spence</a>, and <a href="https://profiles.ucsf.edu/sarah.kim"target="_blank" >Dr. Sarah Kim</a>, a diabetes specialist, about the new guidelines. Plus, NPR’s Reflect America fellow <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/g-s1-90680/kadin-mills"target="_blank" >Kadin Mills</a> unpacks how the new food pyramid could change school lunch trays.  Check out <a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/02/05/nx-s1-5691598/school-lunch-food-pyramid-usda-dietary-guidelines"target="_blank" >more of Kadin’s coverage</a> about the changes in dietary guidelines. Interested in more health science? Email us your question at <a href="mailto:shortwave@npr.org"target="_blank" >shortwave@npr.org</a>. Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at <a href="http://plus.npr.org/shortwave"target="_blank" >plus.npr.org/shortwave</a>. To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below: See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. Learn more about sponsor message choices: <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy">NPR Privacy Policy</a>

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