In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with David Polidi, Bruce Hersey (Syzygy Institute), and Peggy Kolodny (Art Therapy Collective) to explore the forthcoming anthology IFS-Informed EMDR. Together, they unpack how EMDR’s eight phases can be enriched—not replaced—by Internal Family Systems (IFS), art therapy, and Jungian active imagination.You’ll hear:<ul><li>Why Bruce views the target as a part—and how that changes the way we conceptualize trauma work.</li><li>How protectors vs. exiles organize around different types of energy (urge vs. disturbance).</li><li>The emergence of Phase 2.5 / Discovery, bridging resourcing and processing.</li><li>How art-making and active imagination safely access nonverbal, somatic memory.</li><li>Bridger’s chapter, “A Window and a Mirror”, introducing the Somatic Integration and Processing (SIP) model for case conceptualization as an intersubjective, diversity-honoring map.</li></ul>This conversation is both practical and philosophical—an invitation to deepen precision, creativity, and compassion in trauma therapy.Preorder the book: IFS-Informed EMDR: Creative and Collaborative Approaches on Amazon Support the show: patreon.com/thinkbeyondhealing Trainings & consults: connectbeyondhealing.com → Trainings tab Follow: @Notice_That_PodcastSee Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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