This week on the Media Roundtable, we’re bringing you inside the opening fireside chat from the 2025 Chief Audio Officer Summit, featuring two of the most influential independent voices in media today:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenbartlett-123/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Steven Bartlett</a>&nbsp;(Host of&nbsp;Diary of a CEO, Founder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/flight-story-official/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FLIGHTSTORY</a>) and Ben Shapiro (Host of&nbsp;The Ben Shapiro Show, Co-Founder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/thedailywire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daily Wire</a>).In conversation with&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dangranger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dan Granger</a>&nbsp;(CEO,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/oxford-road/?viewAsMember=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford Road</a>), and with a stunning oceanfront sunset as their backdrop, our guests get into the real trade-offs of staying independent, even and especially in the face of nine-figure offers; the discipline behind their respective growth; and how brands can unlock outsized results when they lean into creator-led partnerships.“Independence, in this moment, is a good marker for a lot of listeners and audiences of authenticity. People want to feel like they're not just tuning into an institution.&nbsp;They want to feel like they're turning into a person.”—Ben Shapiro (Host of&nbsp;The Ben Shapiro Show, Co-Founder of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/thedailywire/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daily Wire</a>)The fireside chat covers: Experimenting for Exponential Growth, Striking the Right Ad Load Balance, and Letting Creators Cook.&nbsp;Let’s dive in.See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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