Trump was losing in the courts. He’s not anymore.In the early months of the administration, the courts were proving a powerful check on President Trump, blocking many of his boldest actions. But those were the lower courts. In the past few months, the Supreme Court has weighed in, and it has handed Trump win after win after win.So what do these decisions enable the president to do? And why is the Supreme Court giving Trump what he wants?To pull all this apart, I’m joined by Kate Shaw. She is a former Supreme Court law clerk, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School and a host of the “<a href="https://crooked.com/podcast-series/strict-scrutiny/" target="_blank">Strict Scrutiny</a>” podcast.Note: This episode was recorded on Aug. 21, before Trump announced his intention to fire Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and before Immigration and Customs Enforcement re-arrested Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia and began processing him for deportation to Uganda.Mentioned:“<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8QLgLfqh6s">Don't Believe Him</a>” by Ezra Klein“<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/supreme-court-roberts-trump-dictator/683576/" target="_blank">This Is the Presidency John Roberts Has Built</a>” by Peter M. ShaneBook Recommendations:<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Lawless/Leah-Litman/9781668054628" target="_blank">Lawless</a> by Leah Litman<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/717023/vera-or-faith-by-gary-shteyngart/" target="_blank">Vera, or Faith</a> by Gary Shteyngart<a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631496080" target="_blank">We the People</a> by Jill LeporeThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank">nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast</a>. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html</a>This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith, Kristin Lin, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Aman Sahota and Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Josh Chafetz.
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