Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Shelby Dacko. Chris and Shelby delve into the intricacies of social engineering, focusing on the challenges of pivoting during on-site security assessments. Their discussion highlights the importance of adaptability and teamwork in overcoming unexpected obstacles, emphasizing how diverse communication styles can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Dec 15, 2025] 00:00 - Intro 00:34 - Shelby Dacko Intro - LinkedIn: <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko/</a> 01:18 - Intro Links: - <a href= "http://www.social-engineer.com/">Social-Engineer.com</a> - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Offensive Security Vishing Services - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fvishing%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166287612%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NXq0Bl03cTcJ9v241KDulliLiORyyzXl2KzzlYgYEiM%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/</a> - Offensive Security SMiShing Services - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fsmishing%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166308476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DxB3413PhERNnL8jfS7bqn4SR2K8a91Xd1mgdp4I6uI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/</a> - Offensive Security Phishing Services - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fsmishing%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166318797%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=189JBtHVKoEadOdMEEC5jgfys8%2BYKeuLtGuc6lmGJOw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/</a> - Call Back Phishing - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fcall-back-phishing%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166328468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C%2FttWKvmWgXSpgeB9DJ29fBzVKATgcsEdrPPoZO26Uc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/</a> - Adversarial Simulation Services - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fadversarial-simulation%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166340710%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CqdidOE8%2FFrhVu3xln47vizcVspZBGqCExPImdQP3rs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/</a> - Social Engineering Risk Assessments - <a title= "Protected by Outlook: https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/. Click or tap to follow the link." href= "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.social-engineer.com%2Foffensive-security%2Fsocial-engineering-risk-assessment%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca71f08b578cc4babb1d008de126bc0e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638968451166352842%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=daatLzSDbbo32qUTEfe7VDURN1oT4XE%2FsJ2nxH5LnjY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/</a> - <a href= "https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb">Social-Engineer channel on SLACK</a> - <a href="https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb"> https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb</a> - <a href="http://www.pro-rock.com/">CLUTCH</a> - <a href="http://www.pro-rock.com/"> http://www.pro-rock.com/</a> - <a href= "http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/">innocentlivesfoundation.org</a> - <a href="http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/"> http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/</a> 03:42 - The Importance of Pivoting 05:42 - DISC 06:59 - A Difference in Planning Styles 10:34 - Strength Through Diversity 12:40 - Over the River... 19:29 - And Through the Woods 20:24 - Being Onsite 21:40 - Pivot! Pivot! Pivot! 24:02 - What if? 25:29 - Stray From the Path 28:25 - Strength In Numbers 29:27 - Playing Into Biases 31:43 - Wrap Up & Outro - <a href="http://www.social-engineer.com">www.social-engineer.com</a> - <a href= "http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org">www.innocentlivesfoundation.org</a>

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