Ezra Klein is one of the sharpest voices in American politics, but this conversation is not about left versus right. It’s about virtue, responsibility, and character. Ryan and Ezra talk about why virtue matters in a democracy, what liberalism has lost by failing to speak clearly about responsibility, and why institutions alone can’t save a society if the people inside them abandon restraint, honesty, and self-critique. They also get into what Ezra thinks Stoicism gets right, where it falls short, and why Stoicism, or any philosophy, has to be tested in real life.Ezra Klein is a New York Times columnist and the host of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ezra Klein Show</a>. He is also the co-founder of Vox, where he served as editor-in-chief and later editor-at-large, and previously worked at The Washington Post, The American Prospect, Bloomberg, and MSNBC.📚 Ezra Klein’s books:&nbsp;<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Were-Polarized-Ezra-Klein/dp/147670032X" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why We’re Polarized&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/abundance?_pos=1&_sid=76c4ae81a&_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abundance&nbsp;</a></li></ul>🎙️ Listen to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ezra Klein Show</a> on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3oB5noYIwEB2dMAREj2F7S" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@EzraKleinShow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">watch on YouTube</a>👉 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ezraklein/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Ezra Klein on Instagram | @ezraklein</a>🎟️<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;DAILY STOIC LIVE&nbsp;</a>| Ryan Holiday is coming to a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">city near you</a>!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Grab tickets here</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dailystoiclive.com/</a>🎙️<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;AD-FREE&nbsp;</a>|&nbsp;Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing to<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;The Daily Stoic Premium</a>&nbsp;- unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;https://dailystoic.supercast.com/</a>🎥&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VIDEO EPISODES</a>|&nbsp;Watch the video episodes on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;The Daily Stoic YouTube channel</a>:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos</a>✉️&nbsp;<a href="https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FREE STOIC WISDOM</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at<a href="https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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