How can investors tell the difference between a real value-creating transformation and “compliance theatre”? Phil Gilbert, serial entrepreneur and former IBM General Manager, joins the show to talk about his new book, Irresistible Change: A Blueprint for Earning Buy-In and Breakout Success. Motley Fool contributor Rich Lumelleau talks with Gilbert about the red flags of CEO bluster, the "25% Rule" for cultural tipping points, and why the next generation of great investors will be tracking "Revenue per Token."

Host: Rich Lumulleau
Guest: Phil Gilbert 
Producer: Bart Shannon, Mac Greer 

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