This is Alex Heath, deputy editor at The Verge. My guest today is GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke. In many ways, GitHub Copilot set off the current AI coding boom. But since Thomas was on the show a year ago, the rise of vibe coding has shifted the buzz to newer platforms like Cursor and Windsurf. As you’ll hear in our conversation, Thomas is thinking a lot about the competition, and GitHub’s role in the future of software development. 

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 <li>Developers, Reinvented | <a href="https://ashtom.github.io/developers-reinvented">Thomas Dohmke / GitHub</a>
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 <li>Developer Odyssey | <a href="https://ashtom.github.io/developer-odyssey">Thomas Dohmke / GitHub</a>
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 <li>Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding, with Cursor’s Michael Truell | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/decoder-podcast-with-nilay-patel/715267/anysphere-ceo-michael-truell-cursor-ai-automate-programming-interview">Decoder</a>
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 <li>GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says AI needs competition to thrive | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24221978/github-thomas-dohmke-ai-copilot-microsoft-openai-open-source">⁠⁠Decoder⁠⁠</a>
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 <li>Up to 30 percent of some Microsoft code is now written by AI | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/658584/up-to-30-percent-of-some-microsoft-code-is-now-written-by-ai">Verge</a>
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 <li>GitHub launches its AI app-making tool in preview | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/712609/github-launches-its-ai-app-making-tool-in-preview">Verge</a>
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 <li>Microsoft is getting ready for GPT-5 with a new Copilot smart mode | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/notepad-microsoft-newsletter/715849/microsoft-copilot-smart-mode-testing-notepad">Verge</a>
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 <li>Zuckerberg: AI will write most Meta code within 18 months | <a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/mark-zuckerberg-predicts-ai-will-write-most-of-metas-code-within-12-to-18-months-213851646.html?guccounter=1">Engadget</a>
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Credits:
Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. 
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