Self-driving Waymo robotaxis have become a familiar sight in cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, but not everyone is happy about that. These “ghost-like” autonomous vehicles have made a lot of people uneasy, some even going as far as to vandalize the cars. But what’s behind this hostility? In this episode, Morgan speaks with Bloomberg journalist Ellen Huet and robot law professor Ryan Calo to explore the rise of Waymo vandalism and its roots in our collective anxiety over artificial intelligence. Guests:<ul>
<li>Ellen Huet, Features writer at Bloomberg News</li>
<li>Ryan Calo, Professor of Law at University of Washington</li>
</ul>Further reading:<ul>
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<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-12-06/waymo-s-expansion-spurs-some-rage-against-the-self-driving-cars">Waymo’s Expansion Provokes Anxieties of AI Takeover</a> – Ellen Huet, Bloomberg
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<a href="https://qz.com/robotaxi-tesla-uber-lyft-waymo-mobileye-texas-1851759608">The next big robotaxi push is almost here</a> — Harri Weber, Quartz 
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<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/the-deadly-uber-self-driving-car-crash-is-just-the-beginning.html">The Courts Can Handle the Deadly Uber Self-Driving Car Crash. But that doesn’t mean the law is ready for autonomous vehicles.</a> — Ryan Calo, Slate
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<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/good-robot-bad-robot-jo-ann-oravec/1141932639">Good Robot, Bad Robot: Dark and Creepy Sides of Robotics, Autonomous Vehicles, and AI</a> — Jo Ann Oravec, Professor at the University of Wisconsin</li>
</ul>Read the transcript <a href="https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2025/03/12/waymo-problems/">here</a>.Want to give us feedback on the series? Shoot us an email at CloseAllTabs@KQED.orgYou can also <a href="https://www.instagram.com/closealltabspod/">follow us on Instagram</a>Credits:This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. It was produced and sound designed by Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Additional editing by Jen Chien. Original music by Chris Egusa, with additional music from APM. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad and Alana Walker. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Holly Kernan is our Chief Content Officer.

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