Hey! Nilay here. It’s conference season, so I’m traveling across the country and around the world a lot more than usual. Stay tuned for some very special Decoder episodes we have coming up soon, starting on Monday. 
In the meantime, I wanted to share a conversation between my friend Peter Kafka and Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on the excellent Channels podcast. Lynch says he’s told his teams to assume that traffic will be zero from now on — that’s what I’ve been calling Google Zero. Roger also shares his thoughts on AI, the growing influence of the creator economy, and more.

Links: 
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 <li>Channels with Peter Kafka | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/channels-with-peter-kafka/id1080467174">Apple Podcasts</a>
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 <li>Condé Nast CEO: Plan As If Search Traffic Will Be Zero | <a href="https://www.searchenginejournal.com/conde-nast-ceo-plan-as-if-search-traffic-will-be-zero/574786/">Search Engine Journal</a>
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 <li>Sundar Pichai on AI, the future of search, and what’s happening to the web | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/936445/sundar-pichai-ai-search-google-zero-youtube-web">Decoder</a>
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 <li>Google Zero is here — now what? | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24167865/google-zero-search-crash-housefresh-ai-overviews-traffic-data-audience">Decoder</a>
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 <li>Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’ | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/773928/google-open-web-rapid-decline">The Verge</a>
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