"They swapped out ‘accounting’ for ‘advisory’ in CAS, but I still believe it’s 'client accounting and advisory services.' At scale, especially with small businesses, it’s hard to separate the two. You need a foundational understanding of their accounting model to help architect it in a way that truly tells their story." – Adam Hale The finer details of this episode:<ul><li>The shift from compliance work to advisory roles in accounting.</li><li>Differences between traditional accounting firm structures and mature CAS practices.</li><li>Importance of leveraging resources and delegating tasks within accounting firms.</li><li>Financial metrics and profitability considerations in CAS practices.</li><li>The concept of selling access rather than time in service pricing.</li><li>The role of regular meetings in managing client expectations and scope creep.</li><li>Adoption of a corporate-like structure for improved efficiency and adaptability.</li><li>The impact of a subscription model on client relationships and service delivery.</li><li>Strategies for accounting firms to remain competitive in a changing industry.</li></ul>Episode resources:● Summit Virtual CFO by Anders website: <a href="https://www.summitcpa.net/">https://www.summitcpa.net/</a>● If you have questions or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at <a href="mailto:mcpasuccessshow@anderscpa.com">mcpasuccessshow@anderscpa.com</a>● Check out the Virtual CFO Playbook Course: <a href="https://vcfoplaybook.summitcpa.net/">https://vcfoplaybook.summitcpa.net/</a> Timestamps:Welcome and Introduction (00:00:00)The host introduces the podcast and its mission to provide insights for accounting firms.Overview of CAS (00:00:22)Tom and Adam discuss Client Accounting Services (CAS) and advisory services, highlighting their significance.Defining CAS (00:00:46)Adam explains the evolution of CAS from "Client Accounting Services" to "Client Accounting and Advisory Services."Importance of Accounting in CAS (00:01:02)Adam emphasizes understanding accounting models for effective advisory services, especially for small businesses.Traditional vs. CAS Structures (00:01:52)Discussion on differences between traditional accounting firms and mature CAS practices, focusing on corporate structure.Leveraging Resources in CAS (00:02:06)Adam talks about the importance of leveraging resources and delegating tasks for scaling CAS practices.Transitioning from Traditional Models (00:03:29)Tom shares challenges faced by accounting firms transitioning from traditional models to more scalable structures.Financial Metrics in CAS (00:04:35)Adam discusses financial metrics, contrasting traditional firm profitability with CAS models and their structures.Understanding Profit Margins (00:06:19)Tom and Adam analyze profit margins in CAS compared to traditional firms, aiming for higher profitability.Building Client Relationships (00:09:24)Tom highlights the importance of long-term relationships with clients for smoother operations and better service.Delegation and Offshoring (00:10:06)Discussion on the necessity of delegating work and utilizing offshore teams to enhance efficiency.Measuring Performance in CAS (00:11:59)Adam explains the shift from traditional hourly metrics to responsibility-based performance measures in CAS.Book of Business Targets (00:12:57)Tom and Adam discuss the importance of setting clear book of business targets for team members.Compensation Structure in CAS (00:13:39)Adam outlines how compensation structures differ in CAS, focusing on book of business rather than hours worked.Efficiency Over Hours (00:16:32)Tom advocates for valuing efficiency and client satisfaction over the number of hours worked.Promoting the Virtual CFO Playbook (00:17:33)An unnamed speaker promotes a virtual CFO playbook aimed at helping firms scale and improve client experience.Selling Access in Advisory Services (00:18:30)Tom and Adam discuss the concept of selling access in high-level advisory services, shifting the value proposition.Access to Advisory Services (00:18:51)Discussion on the unpredictability of advisory work time and the subscription model for client access.Managing Client Expectations (00:19:41)Strategies for addressing scope creep through scheduled meetings and clear communication with clients.Rethinking Practice Structure (00:20:20)Encouragement to adopt innovative practices beyond traditional models for growth and efficiency.Corporate Structure in Accounting (00:20:31)Exploring the benefits of a corporate-like structure in accounting practices for better resource sharing.Closing Remarks and Resources (00:21:01)Invitation to visit the website for more tips on achieving success in modern CPA firms.

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