Melinda French Gates is a philanthropist, business leader, advocate, and self-proclaimed “recovering perfectionist.” In her new book, The Next Day, she opens up about the lessons she’s learned about change, from getting divorced to leaving the Gates Foundation that she co-founded and co-chaired for decades. Melinda and Adam discuss how derailment can become an opportunity for growth and emphasize the importance of a strong support system. They also dig into Melinda’s perspective on philanthropy, and debate whether it’s best to give with your head or your heart.FollowHost: Adam Grant (Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/adamgrant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@adamgrant</a> | LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adammgrant" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@adammgrant</a> | Website: <a href="http://adamgrant.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">adamgrant.net/</a>) Guest: Melinda French Gates (Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/melindafrenchgates" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@melindafrenchgates</a> | LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/melindagates/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@melindagates</a> | Website: <a href="http://melindafrenchgates.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">melindafrenchgates.com/</a>)&nbsp;Links<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-next-day-transitions-change-and-moving-forward-melinda-french-gates/21626160?ean=9781250378651&next=t&" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Next Day</a> by Melinda French Gates<a href="http://gatesfoundation.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">gatesfoundation.org</a>Subscribe to TED&nbsp;Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ted/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> @ted</a>YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TED" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> @TED</a>TikTok:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXFocVNnRWFvUUcyWm1ib2psTkJ5RlVpOTRWZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuWkZaWEc3YzMwWkxubG9LdEJXMTBONkhOZ0VXSmtIaVFXZng3WmdEWVpUZ25BUFo1dk1jM21nanQxT2UzN25PQTNfLVVlMkw4ZVlwMUFTb05TRGJORHoxT3hoZjdfZFRQeDRBMlFIYkRJSEkwc3hhbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tiktok.com%2F%40tedtoks&v=9IFo0WjDvL4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> @tedtoks</a>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ted-conferences" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> @ted-conferences</a>Website:<a href="https://open.acast.com/networks/66e1e4bf9a7dcc160e617eef/shows/67572b3b2dd88df13220eb3b/episodes/www.ted.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> ted.com</a>Podcasts:<a href="https://www.ted.com/podcasts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://ted.com/podcasts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ted.com/podcasts</a>For the full text transcript, visit<a href="http://go.ted.com/BHTranscripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant-transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant-transcripts</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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