Another detour episode. This time I am with Gregg Gassmann of many podcasts: Popeular History (that's Popular with an "e"), Pontifacts, and Cardinal Numbers. You won’t find a bigger Pope aficionado than Gregg. Gregg and I discuss the papal conclave of May 2025. You can find Gregg's podcasts at <a href= "https://www.popeularhistory.com/">https://www.popeularhistory.com/</a> and https://pontifacts.podbean.com/. Yes, we are rather late in getting this show out, but sometimes life gets in the way.

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