This week we’re talking to Andreas Kling about SerenityOS and Ladybird. Andreas started SerenityOS as a means of therapy. It’s self-described as a love letter to “‘90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core.” Andreas previously worked at Nokia and later at Apple on the WebKit team, so he had an itch to do something along the lines of a browser, and that’s where Ladybird came from. We get into the details of compilers, OSs, browsers, web specifications, and the love of making software.

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Featuring:
<ul><li>Andreas Kling &ndash; <a href="https://twitter.com/awesomekling" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/awesomekling" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://awesomekling.github.io" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>

Show Notes:
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<li><a href="https://github.com/sponsors/awesomekling">Sponsor Andreas’s work on GitHub Sponsors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling">Andreas Kling on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://serenityos.org">serenityOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ladybird.dev">Ladybird</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt">The Jakt programming language</a></li>
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Timestamps:

(00:00) - This week on The Changelog(01:09) - Sponsor: Convex(04:29) - Start the show!(16:41) - How do you install it?(20:32) - Why? Why?(21:55) - An outlet to learn and explore(26:32) - Need a bathroom? Build it.(28:38) - Did you write the compiler?(32:37) - Major stuff in the works(36:56) - Sponsor: Tailscale(40:33) - Why do we need more browser engines?(46:46) - Do we really need diversity in browser engines?(57:00) - Gecko vs Quantum(1:00:30) - Diff'ing implementation vs spec?(1:03:45) - Long-term personal goals(1:05:40) - Where is Ladybird on the roadmap?(1:10:01) - Who's on the team? Who is we?(1:14:56) - What is a non-capitalistic product?(1:17:57) - Let's plug some URLs(1:18:40) - Use GitHub Sponsors to sponsor(1:20:05) - Wrapping up(1:20:41) - Outro and a bonus for ++

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