This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss President Joe Biden’s State of the Union address and Special Counsel Robert Hur’s congressional testimony; crime and punishment with the <a href="https://www.wrencollective.org/">Wren Collective’s Jessica Brand</a>; and Congress’s move to ban the Chinese government from TikTok. Join us for <a href="https://slate.com/gabfestlive">Political Gabfest Live</a> in Washington, D.C. on March 27! Tickets are on sale now. Planning to attend? Submit a Listener Chatter to <a href="mailto:gabfest@slate.com">gabfest@slate.com</a> and you might be picked to chatter live.  Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:C-SPAN: <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?533226-1/2024-state-union-address">2024 State of the Union Address</a> and <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?534073-1/special-counsel-hur-testifies-biden-classified-documents-report-part-1&event=534073&playEvent">Former Special Counsel Hur Testifies on Biden Classified Documents Report, Part 1</a>and <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?534073-101/special-counsel-hur-testifies-biden-classified-documents-report-part-2&event=534073&playEvent">Part 2</a> House Committee on the Judiciary: <a href="https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5273">Recorded Interview: Robert Hur, President Biden Transcript</a>, <a href="https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/doj-hjc-hur-0000033-0000191.pdf">Date of Interview: October 8</a>, and <a href="https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/doj-hjc-hur-0000192-0000290.pdf">Date of Interview: October 9</a>Kaitlan Collins for CNN: <a href="https://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2024/03/11/the-lead-trump-mar-a-lago-employee-5-tapper.cnn">Fmr. Mar-a-Lago employee who helped move classified docs speaks with CNN</a> Adam Serwer for The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/03/hur-report-biden-2024-election/677740/">How Hur Misled the Country on Biden’s Memory</a>Jack Goldsmith in The New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/opinion/special-counsel-jack-smith-merrick-garland.html">Jack Smith and Robert Hur Are the Latest Examples of a Failed Institution</a>Erica Pandey and Russell Contreras for Axios: <a href="https://www.axios.com/2024/03/12/crime-democrat-states-republican">Blue cities go red with conservative policies on crime</a>Michael Barbaro and Mike Baker for The New York Times’s The Daily podcast: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/podcasts/the-daily/oregon-drugs.html">Oregon Decriminalized Drugs. Voters Now Regret It.</a>Madaleine Rubin for The Texas Tribune: <a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/05/harris-county-district-attorney-primary-kim-ogg/">Sean Teare unseats Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg in primary</a> Stefanie Dazio for AP: <a href="https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-district-attorney-george-gascon-ea268049373d9ac27a02b4d08585dda7">Progressive Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón advances to runoff</a>Jeffrey M. Jones for Gallup: <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/544442/americans-crime-problem-serious.aspx">More Americans See U.S. Crime Problem as Serious</a>Stephanie Sy and Shoshana Dubnow for the PBS News Hour: <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/as-concerns-grow-around-surging-violent-crime-the-numbers-tell-a-different-story">As concerns grown around surging violent crime, the numbers tell a different story</a> David Leonhardt for The New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/briefing/tiktok-china-congress.html">Should China Own TikTok?</a>CBS News: <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/video/fbi-director-wray-says-china-targeting-us-civilian-infrastructure-economic-security-2024-01-31/">FBI Director Wray says China targeting U.S. civilian infrastructure, economic security</a>Laura He for CNN: <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/tech/china-reactions-tiktok-potential-ban-intl-hnk/index.html">If the US bans TikTok, China will be getting a taste of its own medicine</a>CBS Mornings: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHLLxc2nuNM">Jon Stewart on why he’s going back to “The Daily Show” anchor desk</a>Mike Pence on Fox News: <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tiktok-digital-fentanyl-congress-biden-act">TikTok is digital fentanyl and Congress, Biden must act before it’s too late</a>Josh Dawsey and Jeff Stein for The Washington Post: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/03/12/trump-tiktok-ban-lobbying/">How Donald Trump switched to defending TikTok</a>Here are this week’s chatters:Emily: Josh Gerstein for Politico: <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/federal-courts-move-against-judge-shopping-00146594">Federal courts move against ‘judge-shopping’</a> and John Dickerson and Jessica Levinson for CBS News Prime Time: <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/video/new-rules-aim-to-prevent-judge-shopping-major-court-cases/">New rules aim to prevent “judge shopping” in major court cases</a>John: Emily Goulet for Philadelphia: <a href="https://www.phillymag.com/news/2024/02/03/girls-wrestling-high-school/">Fight Like a Girl: The New Wave of High-School Wrestling</a> and Alex Bellos for The Guardian: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/2015/mar/13/pi-day-2015-memory-memorisation-world-record-japanese-akira-haraguchi">He ate all the pi: Japanese man memorises π to 111,700 digits</a>David: <a href="https://lendabox.com/">Lend A Box</a>Listener chatter from Steven in Queens, New York: New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1924/12/31/archives/soon-finds-mother-for-his-5-children-widower-discovers-six-women.html">Soon Finds Mother For His 5 Children; Widower Discovers Six Women Eager to Marry Him and Care for His Brood.</a> For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk about marriage proposals. See Caroline Kitchener for The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/03/marriage-proposals-are-stupid/556403/">Marriage Proposals Are Stupid</a>; Sadiba Hasan for The New York Times: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/style/2023-marriage-proposals.html">10 Great Ways to Pop the Question</a>; and Parija Kavilanz for CNN: <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/business/signet-proposals-comeback-2024/index.html">After 2023 wraps up, get ready for a spike in marriage proposals</a>. In the latest <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2024/02/books-kiley-reids-new-novel-college-life-race-money-economics-consumerism">Gabfest Reads</a>, David talks with Kiley Reid about her book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Come-Get-Kiley-Reid-ebook/dp/B0C1YF5R13/tag=slatmaga-20">Come and Get It</a>. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to <a href="mailto:gabfest@slate.com">gabfest@slate.com</a>. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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