In this round table discussion with Ivan Phillips and Sadia Naeem, we begin by discussing differing viewpoints on “third way evolution,” or a gene-centric viewpoint vs a more holistic view of natural selection. The discussion evolves into a deep dive into emergence and reductionism and many interwoven ideas.Ivan Phillips is author of Textbook Rationality about rationality education, and a new book titled Counterargument from Design that counters arguments for design in evolution. Sadia Naeem, like Ivan, has a PhD has in physics and is interested in the most far-reaching ideas across many domains regarding the fabric of our reality. Both have been on the podcast numerous times before. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/brucenielson/membership">⁠⁠⁠Support us on Patreon⁠</a><a href="https://amzn.to/43esTQ1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Ivan&#39;s "Probability and Purpose: A Refutation of Divine Intent"</a><a href="https://amzn.to/4jgFIOg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Ivan&#39;s "Textbook Rationality"</a>

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