The transgender rights movement in America appeared to be gaining momentum. But after suffering a big loss before the Supreme Court in June and facing a shift in public opinion, where does the fight go now? On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross is joined by Chase Strangio, a transgender rights activist and a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, to discuss strategy in the courtroom and in the court of public opinion — as well as broader philosophical questions about transgender identity.<ul><li>02:15 - Bostock vs. Clayton County</li><li>08:30 - United States v. Skrmetti</li><li>22:57 - Defining sex, gender identity and transgender identity</li><li>32:52 - Chase talks about “coming home”</li><li>40:42 - Healthcare for transgender youth is changing</li><li>56:58 - Sports and transgender athletes</li><li>1:07:49 - Coexistence within the debate</li></ul>(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@InterestingTimesNYT">Interesting Times with Ross Douthat</a>.
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