<div>Welcome back to another edition of Flat Chat with Codders, and with two shows in as many weekends, we're almost caught up again! Codders as usual is joined by Mark Gallagher and Autosport's Grand Prix Editor Alex Kalinauckas to catch up with what was a hectic Baku and Singapore double header.

In this episode, there's chat about McLaren and the nerves about potentially unsettling their winning car via floor upgrades. Have they stumbled across the right formula for success, as their flexi-wing in Baku may have proved?

George Russell is mentioned as well. With Andrea Kimi Antonelli joining in 2025 and with Toto Wolff still eyeing up Max Verstappen with the allure of a potentially great 2026 car, has Russell become the odd man out, despite his strong performances at Mercedes?

And Red Bull can't lock the doors down fast enough in MIlton Keynes as they lose two more key members of staff, with Jonathan Wheatley heading to Audi for 2025, and chief strategist Will Courtenay joining McLaren as Sporting Director sometime in 2032 (Codder's words on Gardening Leave, mind). The trio discuss the impact they'll be likely to have on their new teams.

All that and a throwback to the days of William Shatner, in October's Flat Chat! 

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