First things first: David and Nilay are both having some TV problems, and they need to talk it out. But then they get to the news of the week, including Samsung's new extra-foldy foldable phone, and a big change in the design departments at both Apple and Meta. What does it all say about the future of smart glasses? After that, the hosts talk through why Sam Altman declared a code red inside of OpenAI in order to redirect focus to ChatGPT — and whether the technology that has made all these products possible is actually the right technology moving forward. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, recap season, "dear algo," and thermostats.

Further reading:
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/835525/samsung-z-trifold-announcement-us-availability">Samsung’s Z TriFold is official and it looks like a tablet with a phone attached </a></li>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/766541/huawei-tris-again">Huawei tris again. </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/huawei/667574/huawei-mate-xt-review-trifold-phone">Huawei’s first trifold is a great phone that you shouldn’t buy </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837654/apple-meta-alan-dye-designer">Apple’s head of UI design is leaving for Meta </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/835466/apple-ai-chief-john-giannandrea-steps-down-siri">Apple AI chief steps down following Siri setbacks </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://lmnt.me/blog/a-responsibility-to-the-industry.html">Louie Mantia’s blog post about Dye</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.threads.com/@zuck/post/DR0Wsy0EhCP?xmt=AQF0miWCCanYhoihOhYnATYS6G0i-CtIGCFwZhF43yclxQ">Zuck’s post about the new team</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837364/linux-usage-steam-hardware-survey-november-2025">Linux usage on Steam hits a record high for the second month in a row </a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/836212/openai-code-red-chatgpt">OpenAI declares ‘code red’ as Google catches up in AI race </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/835453/openai-ownership-thrive-holdings">OpenAI just made another circular deal </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/column/837779/anthropic-ai-bubble-warning">Anthropic’s AI bubble ‘YOLO’ warning </a></li>
</ul>
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 <li>
<a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837142/anthropics-racing-openai-to-go-public">Anthropic’s racing OpenAI to go public</a><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837142/anthropics-racing-openai-to-go-public"> </a>
</li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837128/normalizing-extraterrestrial-data-centers">Normalizing extraterrestrial data centers</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/837287/ai-browsers-comet-chatgpt-atlas-edge-copilot-chrome-gemini">I tested five AI browsers and lost my mind in the process</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/827820/large-language-models-ai-intelligence-neuroscience-problems">The AI boom is based on a fundamental mistake</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/ilya-sutskever-2">Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/fcc-boss-brendan-carr-claims-another-victory-over-dei-as-att-drops-programs/">FCC boss Brendan Carr claims another victory over DEI as AT&T drops programs</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/829265/hoto-fanttik-profile-origins-xiaomi-aukey-tiktok">First there was nothing, then there was Hoto and Fanttik</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837246/honeywell-home-x8s-smart-thermostat-launches-matter-ring-compatibility">This new Honeywell Home smart thermostat can answer your Ring doorbell</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837127/spotify-wrapped-party-2025-music-competition">Spotify Wrapped 2025 turns listening into a competition </a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/836173/youtube-recap-videos-eoy-review-wrapped">YouTube introduces its own version of Spotify Wrapped for videos </a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/836273/amazon-music-delivered-puts-your-top-tunes-on-a-festival-poster">Amazon Music Delivered puts your top tunes on a festival poster. </a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837177/google-photos-2025-recap-selfie-count">Google Photos Recap will tell you how many selfies you took this year</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/837813/dear-algo">“Dear algo.” </a></li>
</ul>
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