America loves winners—now more than ever. But how do you get to a win in 2025 America? We watch someone trying to score a win in a game whose rules are being made up as she plays. 

Visit <a href="https://thisamericanlife.supercast.com">thisamericanlife.org/lifepartners</a> to sign up for our premium subscription.<ul><li>Prologue: Ira talks to producer Diane Wu about an informal survey she’s done with the staff of This American Life about a phrase Ira says a lot that includes the word “winners.” (8 minutes)</li><li>Act One: Two people see one of President Trump’s first executive orders and get excited, and then get to work. (30 minutes)</li><li>Act Two: We follow the progress of one woman as she builds up, from scratch, a whole movement based on one of Trump’s executive orders. (19 minutes)</li></ul>Transcripts are available at <a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/872/transcript">thisamericanlife.org</a><a href=&#039;https://www.thisamericanlife.org/page/privacy-policy&#039;>This American Life privacy policy.</a><a href=&#039;https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices&#039;>Learn more about sponsor message choices.</a>

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