Brought to you by <a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athletic Greens</a>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, <a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep’s Pod Cover</a>&nbsp;sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating, and <a href="http://allform.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Allform</a>&nbsp;premium, modular furniture.&nbsp;Jim Collins&nbsp;(<a href="http://jimcollins.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jimcollins.com</a>) is a student and teacher of what makes great companies tick and a Socratic advisor to leaders in the business and social sectors. Having invested more than a quarter-century in rigorous research, he has authored or co-authored six books that have sold in total more than 10 million copies worldwide. They include&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good to Great</a>, the #1 bestseller that examines why some companies make the leap to superior results, and its companion work&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Social-Sectors-Business/dp/0977326403/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Good to Great and the Social Sectors</a>; the enduring classic&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Built-Last-Successful-Visionary-Essentials/dp/0060516402/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Built to Last</a>, which explores how some leaders build companies that remain visionary for generations;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Mighty-Fall-Companies-Never/dp/0977326411/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How the Mighty Fall</a>, which delves into how once-great companies can self-destruct; and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Great-Choice-Uncertainty-Luck-Why-Despite/dp/0062120999/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Great by Choice</a>, which is about thriving in chaos—why some do and others don’t.And now he’s updating his debut book,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Entrepreneurship-Turning-Business-Enduring/dp/0133815269/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beyond Entrepreneurship</a>, for the twenty-first century.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/BE-2-0-Beyond-Entrepreneurship-Business-dp-0399564233/dp/0399564233/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beyond Entrepreneurship 2.0: Turning Your Business into an Enduring Great Company</a>&nbsp;is now available.Please enjoy!This interview was originally published in 2019. You can find the show notes here: <a href="https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/</a>*This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;<a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep</a>!&nbsp;<a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep’s&nbsp;Pod Cover</a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;easiest and fastest way to sleep at the perfect temperature. It pairs dynamic cooling and heating with biometric tracking to offer the most advanced (and user-friendly) solution on the market. Simply add&nbsp;<a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Pod Cover</a>&nbsp;to your current mattress and start sleeping as cool as 55°F or as hot as 110°F. 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