Before the 2024 election, Maureen and Jayna had hoped to attend a historic inauguration for Kamala Harris in Washington, D.C. But when Donald Trump won the presidency, the lesbian couple scrapped their trip—and booked a fact-finding mission to Portugal instead. On this episode of How To!, they talk with co-host Carvell Wallace about their plans to leave the U.S.—and start a new life somewhere they’ll feel safer. And, Jen Barnett of <a href="https://expatsi.com/">Expatsi</a> offers up advice about Portugal and other LGBTQ+ friendly countries, the implications for taxes and international travel (including return trips to the States), and what expat-curious listeners need to know about raising kids, voting, EU citizenship—and how to take the first step.Links Mentioned: <a href="https://expatsi.outgrow.us/expatsi-test-2">The Expatsi Test</a><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mindfulmigrant?lang=en">Mindful Migrant on TikTok</a>If you liked this episode check out: <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/how-to/2019/08/how-to-uproot-life-annie-duke">How To Uproot Your Life</a> and <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/how-to/2023/08/how-to-make-a-foreign-place-feel-like-home">How To Live Anywhere in the World</a>.Do you have a problem that needs solving? Send us a note at <a href="mailto:howto@slate.com">howto@slate.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-with-charles-duhigg/id1469631127">Apple</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2sTpPBvpoGHZlDwgSKI7EZ?si=bD7WdR-vTjuCva13Wdn5qw">Spotify</a> or wherever you listen.How To’s executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson, with Kevin Bendis.Want more How To!? Subscribe to Slate Plus to unlock exclusive bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to/id1469631127">How To!</a> show page. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/podcast-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=How_To&utm_source=episode_summary">slate.com/howtoplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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