Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 1985’s Creature and 1996’s Within The Rock.
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We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. Liam talks about reading the comic Houses Of The Unholy, the book Cuckoo and the FX series Alien: Earth, as well as the film The Long Walk.  Justin talks about attending the Mahoning Drive In’s annual David Lynch Weekend and seeing Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me and Mulholland Drive, as well as the films Bring Her Back, The Luckiest Man In America, She Loved Blossoms More, and Good Boy.
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Up first is Creature. We talk about director William Malone’s filmography, particularly The House On Haunted Hill. We talk about how even though it’s not a very good movie it’s still a fun movie.
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We discuss how Malone fails to hide the shoddiness of the creature FX because he keeps it too much in the dark. We talk about how the film attempts to use elements from Planet Of The Vampires to hide the elements from Alien that don’t work.
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Klaus Kinski’s insane performance is touched upon. The unnecessary sex scenes are discussed, but we point out that as bad as the movie is and how unfocused it is, it’s never a boring film.
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Up next is Within The Rock. We talk about director Gary Tuncliffe’s involvement in the Hellraiser franchise as well as the strange overlap this film has with the Terminator franchise due to it being produced by Robert Patrick and character actor Dale Dye’s insane filmography outside of this movie. Liam talks about the few things he likes about the movie, including the creature design which came off more as kaiju-y than anything else.
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We discuss the clunky narrative structure of the film and how it feels the need to repeatedly remind us of the creatures origin in awkward ways. We talk about the films lack of tension despite it taking place on a rock that’s hurtling towards earth. The films inability to measure up to Alien’s ability to get us invested in all the characters and instead presenting us with boring unrelatable characters is discussed.
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