Bitcoin rallied 23% after Bessent's debt-buyback comments and settled near $80K. Swan's Cory Klippsten weighs in on what ETF inflows and onchain exchange moves really mean.
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========================================================Bitcoin rallied 23 percent in a week after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the government would double its long-term debt buybacks, settling near $80,000 without a leverage-driven blowoff. ETFs pulled in about $3 billion over two weeks, even as onchain data showed coins moving toward exchanges.
Cory Klippsten, founder and CEO of Swan, joins Laura Shin to discuss why he distrusts popular Bitcoin forecasting tools. He calls stock-to-flow and power-law price models unfalsifiable "false gods" that leave holders with paper hands, and dismisses the quantum-computing scare as manufactured hype tied to 2025's penny-stock schemes. Yet he insists onchain self-custody is where value lives.
The two weigh the ColdCard hack, which cost self-custody wallets roughly 1,400 coins, against larger losses at Mt. Gox, Celsius, and Quadriga. Klippsten covers Swan's RBX tool for converting GBTC into real Bitcoin, the custody spectrum topped by Swan Trinity, and why nobody will know for decades whether Bitcoin's fee market can replace its shrinking block reward.

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Timestamps

📈 01:00 Cory Klippsten ties Bitcoin's $80K rally to Bessent's Treasury buyback move
📊 04:20 Laura asks about $3B in ETF inflows versus Bitcoin moving to exchanges
🔮 06:23 Cory debunks stock-to-flow and power law models for Bitcoin's price
🌊 14:23 1inch Aqua: See how LPs back multiple positions with one token balance and cover more pairs at<a href="http://unchainedcrypto.com/go/1inch-sn"> http://unchainedcrypto.com/go/1inch-sn</a>
🔐 15:13 Cory reacts to the ColdCard hack that drained over 1,000 Bitcoin
🔄 20:10 Swan's RBX lets holders convert GBTC shares into real Bitcoin tax efficiently
🗂️ 25:20 Cory maps a 5-step custody spectrum from self-custody to multi-institution
⚛️ 31:34 Cory calls the Bitcoin quantum threat panic 'manufactured bullshit'
🪙 35:19 Cory rejects freezing or tail-emitting Satoshi's coins, backs the fee market Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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