In this episode Craig and Stephanie sit down with Intrepid Podcast contributor, Thomas Juneau, and Dominic Rochon, senior assistant deputy minister for the national and cyber security branch of Public Safety Canada. Thomas and Dominic are co-chairs of the National Security Transparency Advisory Group. Together, the four look at their latest report “How National Security and Intelligence Institutions Engage with Racialized Communities”. They discuss ongoing challenges in building trust, and how to balance engagement in organizations that are also seen as engaged in active community surveillance. &nbsp;You can access the report here: <a href="https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2022-nstag-nsiirc-isnrccr/index-en.aspx" target="_blank">https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2022-nstag-nsiirc-isnrccr/index-en.aspx</a> &nbsp;Thomas and Dominic have also written a piece about Policy Options, summarizing some of the key findings in the report: <a href="https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/may-2022/bridging-the-national-security-trust-gap-with-racialized-people/" target="_blank">https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/may-2022/bridging-the-national-security-trust-gap-with-racialized-people/</a>

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