The first year of President Trump’s second term was a whirlwind of action: on immigration, on trade, on political retribution. But things seem to me to be slowing down quite a bit. Trump is incredibly unpopular, and he’s now bogged down in a war with Iran that he doesn’t seem capable of ending. He often appears more concerned with his many White House renovations than with whether the Republican Party can hold the House and the Senate in November. So what’s going on in this administration? Where is this all going?
It’s hard to think of a journalist more qualified to answer those questions than Maggie Haberman. As a White House correspondent for The New York Times, she’s published some of the hardest-hitting reporting about Trump’s second act as president and the group of loyalists that now surrounds him.
Haberman, alongside her New York Times colleague Jonathan Swan, just published an extraordinary chronicle of this extraordinary political moment, “<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Regime-Change/Maggie-Haberman/9781668067246" rel="noopener noreferrer">Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump</a>.” In this conversation, we discuss how decisions get made in this White House, what Trump has achieved so far and what’s really motivating him as we head toward the midterms.
This episode contains strong language.
Mentioned:
“<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-maggie-haberman.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Maggie Haberman on What an Unleashed Trump Might Do</a>” by The Ezra Klein Show
“<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/06/trump-interview-iran-israel/683192/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trump Says He Decides What ‘America First’ Means</a>” by Michael Scherer
Book Recommendations:
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/charlie-savage/takeover/9780316118057/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Takeover</a> by Charlie Savage
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/760850/strangers-by-belle-burden/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Strangers</a> by Belle Burden
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/I-Regret-Almost-Everything/Keith-McNally/9781668017647" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I Regret Almost Everything</a> by Keith McNally
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at <a href="mailto:ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com</a>.
You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html
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