The Trump administration wants to accelerate the use of artificial intelligence for scientific discovery. But can its plan succeed without prioritizing universities?Guest host Tyler Cowen speaks with Michael Kratsios, President Trump’s top science and technology adviser, about the White House’s new blueprint for American innovation and what it means for the next generation of scientists.<ul><li>00:00 Intro</li><li>00:54 Why American Science Is Broken</li><li>02:49 The Case for A New Model</li><li>04:49 Kratsios’s Funding Priorities</li><li>08:52 Kratsios’s Silicon Valley Background</li><li>10:53 The Role of Universities</li><li>16:31 Immigration’s Effect on Scientific Research</li><li>18:57 Who Controls Grantmaking?</li><li>25:20 A.I. Regulation and Safety Tools</li><li>36:03 Testing Models Before Release</li><li>39:19 Ten-Year Vision and Risks</li><li>43:21 A New Golden Age for Science</li><li>45:53 Closing and Credits</li></ul>Note: As we work on relaunching “Interesting Times,” the show will feature a series of guest hosts in the coming months.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@InterestingTimesNYT" rel="noopener noreferrer">Interesting Times</a>.&nbsp;
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