Today on The Gist, guest host Jason Mojica marks the 25th anniversary of September 11th with former CIA counterterrorism official Philip Mudd, author of Black Site: The CIA in the Post-9/11 World. Mudd revisits the post-9/11 panic over a second wave of attacks, the overhaul of US intelligence, and the contentious debates surrounding enhanced interrogation techniques. The episode closes with Mike Pesca's archival reflection on military families, community sacrifice, and high school football at Fort Campbell, Kentucky.Stop online threats before they become real-world attacks. Visit ironwall.com/GIST and request a free Risk Assessment to see exactly how exposed your executives are.Produced by Corey WaraVideo and Social Media by Geoff CraigDo you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="mailto:thegist@mikepesca.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">thegist@mikepesca.com</a>For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.mikepesca.com/</a>⁠For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/</a>For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List&nbsp;<a href="https://mikepesca.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mikepesca.substack.com/</a>Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/</a>X&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/pescami" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/pescami</a>TikTok&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist</a>To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="mailto:sales@amplitudemediapartners.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sales@amplitudemediapartners.com</a> Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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