In the late 2000s, two French mountain athletes set out to build a running shoe that captured the feeling of flying.&nbsp;Jean-Luc Diard and Nicolas “Nico” Mermoud had spent decades inside the innovation engine at Salomon—where product was obsession. In 2007, as Nico recovered from a brutal ultramarathon around Mont Blanc, the founders fixed on a problem that Big Footwear didn’t care about: downhill running was destroying bodies. Their solution: make the shoe bigger, softer, and shaped like a rocker.At first, their prototypes looked like clown shoes. Runners who preferred minimalist footwear laughed at them.&nbsp;Retailers said no. But the founders kept doing the one thing that they knew could reverse things: they made people try them.HOKA went from under $3M in sales in 2012 to more than $2B a year—and in this episode, you’ll hear how it happened: the risky design, the early cash crunch, and the strategic partnership that helped them win the U.S. market.What you’ll learn:<ul><li>How to think of a shoe as a machine, not just a piece of apparel</li><li>The go-to-market weapon that worked: relentless demo-ing&nbsp;</li><li>Why outside money can’t always solve a cash flow bottleneck (and what does)</li><li>How HOKA used performance proof to avoid being dismissed as a gimmick</li><li>Why HOKA partnered with Deckers—and why it wasn’t just about capital</li><li>How to keep a “rebel” mindset as competitors start copying you</li></ul>Timestamps:(Timecodes are approximate and may shift depending on platform.)<ul><li>[07:12] George Salomon’s leadership lesson: the CEO who sought advice from an intern</li><li>[11:11] Nico’s first day at Salomon: testing ski prototypes on a glacier</li><li>[18:42] The ultramarathon race where Nico’s legs crumbled (and why)</li><li>[21:29] A breakthrough insight: performance changes with surface (leaves, lava, snow)</li><li>[31:25] Designing a sneaker as if it were a car: engine, tires, seat</li><li>[40:00] The “clown shoe” prototype—and the first successful run&nbsp;</li><li>[47:22] Elite runners kickstart the brand&nbsp;</li><li>[49:02] The hard part nobody glamorizes: factory minimums, bank demands, anemic cash flow</li><li>[53:31] Deckers enters: the minority investment that unlocks the U.S. (without killing the brand)</li></ul>Hey—want to be a guest on HIBT?If you’re building a business, why not get advice from some of the greatest entrepreneurs on Earth?Every Thursday on the HIBT Advice Line, a previous HIBT guest helps new entrepreneurs work through the challenges they’re facing right now. Advice that’s smart, actionable, and absolutely free.Just call 1-800-433-1298, leave a message, and you may soon get guidance from someone who started where you did, and went on to build something massive.So—give us a call. We can’t wait to hear what you’re working on.***This episode was produced and researched by Rommel Wood with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei.It was edited by Neva Grant.&nbsp;Our engineers were Patrick Murray and Kwesi Lee.&nbsp;See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.&nbsp;See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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