This week, we’re talking Thingies with Jo Piazza, author of <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-sicilian-inheritance-jo-piazza/20266161?ean=9780593474167" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sicilian Inheritance</a>—exactly the escapist, immersive book we want at this very moment—and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sicilian-inheritance/id1735578176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">its companion true-crime podcast</a>…because this woman is one of the most ambitious storytellers you’ve ever encountered, ok? Also: We raise a case for cold-calling your friends, expectations free.&nbsp;Jo’s thingies include trad wives (or maybe that’s a Claire Thingie?), <a href="https://rstyle.me/+A03PYGIbt16BG9jzNEIphg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oak Essentials moisture rich balm</a> (s/o to <a href="https://rstyle.me/+A03PYGIbt16BG9jzNEIphg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the cleansing balm</a> also!), <a href="https://rstyle.me/+-xKUAZCx_k1vpJM2tP4rbQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Freda Salvador shoes</a> and <a href="https://rstyle.me/+F60_hDa44voMUxjmNOywRA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Jada ballet flats</a> in particular, <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/other-two/f88636df-65d2-4cf4-94d0-3c098b971a16" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Other Two on Max</a> (see also: <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/the-state/?searchReferral=desktop-web&source=google-organic&ftag=PPM-23-10bfh8c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The State</a>, <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/dabfcfd9-93b3-4f54-a63d-dc62050a0015" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Party Down</a>, and <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81630704?source=35" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Girls 5Eva</a>), the podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/time-capsule-the-silver-chain/id1730602862" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Time Capsule: The Silver Chain</a>.&nbsp;There was a lot of food talk, naturally: Jo raves about <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/little-library-cafe/2017/sep/29/novel-recipes-linguine-alla-cecca-from-heartburn-by-nora-ephron" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norah Ephron’s pasta alla cecca recipe</a>, and some Philly restaurants she loves include <a href="https://www.fridaysaturdaysunday.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friday Saturday Sunday</a>, <a href="https://www.trattoriacarina.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Trattoria Carina</a>, and <a href="https://www.zahavrestaurant.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zahav</a>.Jo’s Italian heritage liaison: Laura Lee of <a href="https://digginguprootsintheboot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Digging Up Roots in the Boot</a>.Want more Jo? You are in LUCK! Her new release <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-sicilian-inheritance-jo-piazza/20266161?ean=9780593474167" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Sicilian Inheritance</a> has an <a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/elena-ferrante" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elena Ferrante </a>meets <a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/gabrielle-hamilton-9c40cec5-da13-40bd-b4eb-8d2fe9888d74" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gabrielle Hamilton</a> meets <a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/liane-moriarty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liane Moriarty </a>vibe, and it pairs perfectly with <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sicilian-inheritance/id1735578176" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this non-fiction podcast</a> where Jo, NBD, works to solve a family murder. And dig into her other books <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/1385/9781982181031" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Are Not Like Them</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-were-always-mine/18910726?ean=9781668005507" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">You Were Always Mine</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/charlotte-walsh-likes-to-win-jo-piazza/6690513?ean=9781501179433" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Charlotte Walsh Likes to Win</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-knockoff-jo-piazza/8571241?ean=9781101872208" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Knockoff</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/how-to-be-married-what-i-learned-from-real-women-on-five-continents-about-building-a-happy-marriage-jo-piazza/11163897?ean=9780451495570" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Be Married</a>. Want something to listen to? Dive into <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/under-the-influence-with-jo-piazza/id1544171101" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Under the Influence</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wilder/id1690569042" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wilder</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/committed/id1382244741" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Committed</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fierce/id1462189254" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fierce</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/she-wants-more/id1670373380" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">She Wants More</a>, and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/too-much-money/id1715603633" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Too Much Money</a>.What are *your* Thingies? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or <a href="https://www.instagram.com/athingortwohq/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@athingortwohq</a>—or chat with other Bobs in <a href="https://links.geneva.com/invite/589b6cbf-729a-46da-93ff-9e9ec0a1309b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our Geneva</a>. 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