Lies, lies and more lies. How many lies can our institutions survive?

And why are we so bad at defending those institutions?

Alex Andreou and Kenny Campbell are joined by a Quiet Riot favourite – Christina Pagel, a professor of operational research at UCL as well as the creator of the smash hit service to humanity that is the Trump Action Tracker.

Is Britain vulnerable to the sort of institutional vandalism that Trump had visited on the US? Heck, is Britain even *more* vulnerable than the US?

Talking of which, Alex and Kenny also look at the latest madness on Planet Trump and ask just how much crazier this could all get.

Oh, they do mention Celebrity Traitors yet again ... but only because Prof Pagel is a fan. Honestly.

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“Justice is meant to involved a crime, finding out who did it, and prosecuting them. What Trump is doing is saying, openly: here are the people I want prosecuted, find me the crime. And the Republican politicians are cheering him on, which is really scary.”
“I’m not sure whether [Proposition 50] is the right thing to do. I worry that it accelerates the degradation of norms. But given how flaccid the Democratic response has been to Trump in general, I’m just glad that someone is doing something.” 
“The vandalism that is occurring to the pillars on which democracy in the US stands will tie up the system for years and is so extensive that it is hard to fight on all the fronts that have been opened.”
“One thing we can say from the Caerphilly result is that the next Senedd election will be a realignment, rather than a usual hold-the-line election. Plaid is very well placed to become the largest party - or, if not, a key player.”
“Many functions of the state - from food safety to regulation of medicines to weather forecasting - require expertise and so are allocated to dedicated bodies. Those bodies should be allowed to operate only on the facts - not on politics. Their expertise protects our way of life.”

CALLS TO ACTION
• Check out the Center for Democracy and Technology in the <a href="%E2%81%A0cdt.org/">US </a>and <a href="cdt.org/eu/%E2%81%A0%20">Europe</a>
• Read Prof Pagel’s <a href="%20%E2%81%A0https://www.ucl.ac.uk/policy-lab/news/2025/oct/uks-arms-length-public-bodies-are-highly-vulnerable-politicisation%E2%81%A0%20">report</a> on our institutions and share it with MPs and other people in positions of influence

GRIN AND SHARE IT
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