*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-(--header-height)" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "effc95df-294b-4192-9cc6-00e1eb5e3a7e" data-testid= "conversation-turn-1" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn="user"> *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:25e8c325-0da6-411e-9e0d-dec02898c751-0" data-testid= "conversation-turn-2" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> What happens when the most frustrating part of customer service, waiting on hold, repeating yourself, and fighting your way through endless phone menus, finally starts to disappear? In this episode, I sit down with Neil Hammerton, CEO and co-founder of Natterbox, to talk about how AI is reshaping customer experience in ways that feel practical rather than theatrical. We begin with a conversation about the gap between what customers have tolerated for years and what they expect now. Whether it is a bank that still puts you through layers of outdated IVR menus or a service team that answers straight away and solves the issue, those experiences stay with us. Neil makes the case that voice is far from dead. In fact, he believes voice is becoming one of the most exciting places to apply AI, especially when businesses want faster, more human interactions at scale. What I found especially interesting was Neil's view that AI should be treated like a new employee. That means training matters. Tone matters. Context matters. If businesses want AI assistants and agents to succeed, they have to teach them how the organization works, how conversations should sound, and when a human needs to step in. We talk about the difference between using AI for simple triage and using it to complete tasks end to end, from handling password resets to helping callers outside office hours or during spikes in demand. Neil also shares why the smartest path is rarely a giant leap. It is usually a series of smaller, lower-risk steps that build confidence and real results over time. We also get into one of the biggest concerns hanging over every AI conversation right now, whether these tools are replacing people or helping them do better work. Neil's answer is refreshingly balanced. In many cases, AI is taking care of the repetitive jobs that frustrate staff and slow down service, while freeing human agents to handle the conversations where empathy, judgment, and experience still matter most. That shift can improve customer experience while also making work more rewarding for the people on the front line. There is also a strong message here for business leaders who are still stuck in pilot mode, testing AI without ever quite moving forward. Neil explains why smart pilots need clear goals, good training data, and realistic expectations. He also shares how Natterbox is using AI internally, including producing board packs in a fraction of the time, while still keeping people involved to check, challenge, and refine the output. This episode is a thoughtful look at where customer experience is heading next, and why the future probably belongs to businesses that know when to let AI lead, when to keep humans in the loop, and how to blend both into something customers actually value. What are your thoughts on the balance between AI efficiency and human connection in customer service, and where do you think businesses are still getting it wrong?

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