<p>Malcolm talks with Ben Naddaff-Hafrey, host of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-last-archive/id1506207997">The Last Archive</a>, about the forgotten origins of a major social science, the missing chapter in Ella Fitzgerald’s life, and what it all has to do with the prison just down the street from Malcolm’s office. Listen, and check out the brand new season from Pushkin’s <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-last-archive/id1506207997">The Last Archive</a>.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

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