In his Veteran’s day speech a couple of weeks ago former President Donald Trump said this about his political enemies;
TRUMP: the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. 
<a href="https://twitter.com/JeffSharlet">Jeff Sharlet</a>, author of <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324006497">The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War</a>, argues that Trump's narratives of martyrdom, a persecuted in-group, a mysterious out-group, and a rhetoric of violence are all hallmarks of fascism. Brooke spoke with Sharlet in June about what the rhetoric, aesthetics, and myth-making of Trump and the movement he rode to power can tell us about a rising fascist movement in the United States, and why Sharlet argues we're in the midst of a slow civil war.  
This is a segment from our June 16, 2023 show, <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-indicted-again">Indicted (Again)</a>.

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