Today Ed sits down with a pair of authors who’ve managed to do the impossible: make the mechanics of financial transactions fascinating. The pair’s recently published book, “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094F69F8Q/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Pay Off: How Changing the Way We Pay Changes Everything</a>,” (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094F69F8Q/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094F69F8Q/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1</a>), underscores how the explosion of new payment systems around the world is impacting consumers and the broader economy. Leibbrandt, a former McKinsey Partner and the CEO of Swift (as in ‘Swift Code’) for a decade and De Teran, a veteran journalist who served as Corporate Affairs lead at Swift, have a unique perspective on the topic; their chat spans the implications of “programmable money” and why credit card companies should be worried.You can subscribe to the Vaizey View newsletter by clicking<a href="http://eepurl.com/ckPLSf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> here</a> (<a href="http://eepurl.com/ckPLSf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://eepurl.com/ckPLSf</a>).See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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