Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys because we’re talking with Larry Gargus of the Bleach Mouth Postscript Podcast about The Abominable Dr. Phibes and Count Yorga, Vampire!
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We start by talking about what we’ve done involving horror recently. Larry talks about the new Boris Karloff documentary and watching the films Magic, Possession, and The Wicker Man, as well as the World’s Adaption comic adaption of Killdozer. Liam talks about the films Nocebo, Infinity Pool, as well as the show Owl House. Justin also talks about Infinity Pool as well as reading the Nick Cutter book The Troop.
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Up first is Count Yorga, Vampire. We briefly talk about the history of the Yorga films and how they connected (sort of) with the Phibes films, as well as his personal background with the movies we chose today. We discuss how the film is essentially the novel Dracula but deconstructed, and we briefly talk about the over-the-top nature of the acting in the film.
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Liam talks about how the film chooses to go the way of supporting a patriarchal viewpoint as opposed to a vaguely queer viewpoint that a lot of vampire films choose to do, and how despite it being rough around the edges it’s still unintentionally goofy enough that it’s a lot of fun.
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Justin talks about how the film reminded him of the work of horror writer Robert McCammon in that the world of the undead meets the world of the cosmopolitan, and how it was sort of weird that in the universe of the film Bela Lugosi vampire films exist and yet the characters are seemingly clueless how the strange Eastern European man with “count” in his name is a vampire.
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He also talks about how tense the scene where Yorga is confronted is despite the film not doing much to build tension and how the film was legit frightening at times despite the low budget nature of much of the film. Larry talks about how the film does away with the romance a lot of vampire films are heavy with and instead focuses more on the amoral Nietzschean aspect of the character.
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            Up next is The Abominable Dr. Phibes. Justin starts by talking about the pervasiveness of this film and how it might be the Vincent Price film.
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Larry talks about the similarities between Price and Boris Karloff, in that both were often accused of being unable to act while being quite talented actors.
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Justin talks about his personal history with Vincent Price films and talks about the quiet tragedy and sadness Price often brought to his films and how he found the Phibes character design quite unsettling despite knowing exactly what it looked like.
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We talk about some of the more outlandish qualities of the film, including a perverted version of the plagues of Egypt involving bats and English people being unfamiliar with one of the most famous stories in the Bible.
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We talk about the films surreal and self-aware nature. Larry talks about the “super science” comic book villain nature of the film.
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