As the world held its collective breath for white smoke at the Vatican to signal the <a href='https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/05/08/utah-catholics-are-shocked/'>selection of a new Catholic pope</a>, some members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were smugly thinking how straightforward their faith‘s succession process is.
No guessing. No politicking. No top candidates. The senior apostle simply moves up a seat.
Some wonder, though, <a href='https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/05/16/should-lds-church-pick-prophets/'>what’s wrong with mystery and surprise</a>? Is an election in this context necessarily devoid of the Holy Spirit? Couldn’t God make any system righteous? Why does it matter?
On this week’s show, <a href='https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/05/12/picking-catholic-popes-lds/'>Latter-day Saint historian Matthew Bowman</a> and Utah <a href='https://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2022/03/23/mormon-land-look-back/'>Catholic archivist Gary Topping</a> discuss how the two global religions pick their top leaders — the precedents at play, the politics involved, the pluses, the minuses, and how both can see God’s hand in the result.

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