Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys, as we’re talking about 1981’s From The Old Earth and 1987’s Born Of Fire.
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            We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. Liam talks about seeing the remastered version of Re-Animator, Lord Of Illusions, Black Eyed Susan, and House of Dynamite. Justin talks about some of the films he saw for Brooklyn Horror Film Festival and Screamfest, as well as the films Alma and the Wolf, Somnium, The Astronaut, and Traumatika, and the HBO series Welcome To Derry.
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             Up first is From The Old Earth. Justin talks about how this feels very much like the archetypical folk horror film. We talk about the history of the attempts to keep the Welsh language alive. We briefly talk about the history of Wales and how British colonialism had long attempted to crush the Welsh culture.
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Justin talks about the role of the Welsh in Lovecraftian fiction, particularly Colin Wilson’s short story, “The Return Of The Lloigor.” We discuss how despite taking place in Wales, the film still has a very British feel to it. The fact that only women can see the villain (a shadowy god) is touched upon and how that plays into the misogynistic views of post-WWII UK.
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Liam talks about the relative lack of gore and blood, and how despite not being out-and-out frightening, it still has a good amount of creepiness. Justin talks about how the film accomplishes what a folk horror film sets out to do, which is presenting a sense of time and portraying the modern world as a thin veneer resting upon the horrors of the primordial past.
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Justin also talks about the theme of feminine fertility being the enemy of some of these deities. We talk some more about the basic tenets of folk horror.
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            Up next is Born Of Fire. We give a summary of the film. We talk about how the film, despite being directed by a Pakistani person, presents some rather problematic views of Turkey, in that Turkey is presented as a place inhabited by actual cave dwellers.
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Liam talks about the film&#8217;s British sensibility of being simultaneously uptight and horny, and its utter lack of subtlety. We talk about the film’s themes of decadence and temptation, as well as hints of a Charlie Daniels-esque master flautist vs. the devil. We talk about the history of “trickster” beings in Europe, tying back to a Muslim influence and the Muslim concept of the djinn.
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